honestly.. this is an industry unique to women and homsexual men and dare i say the odd and rare metrosexual male..
who thinks it is a good idea.. stuffing your flesh and stiching up your skin to undergo some plastic remodelling of your nose or breasts.. or having eyebrows lasered on for life.. that kind fo thing.. do wqe need it?? is it a waste of resources?? and should I pay my health premiums so women can go out and get expensive boobjobs??? my ex wanted one and for 5 years i said no.. she left me saying i controlled her and i now expect her to get that boobjob.. somehow.. i hope the things burst in the sun one day.. nasty aint i..
Why do women want boob jobs?? lip jobs and other crap??
Most of the women who want breast implants, collagen lip injections, etc. have been brainwashed by the media as to what the "ideal woman" looks like. Women ARE judged by their looks far more than men are. I agree with you though, it's not natural and beauty is so much more than a pair of boobs!
Reply:I agree, plastic surgery is not a healthy choice in most cases.
Your insurance is NOT affected however, as this is elective, and usually not covered by insurance.
There is a place for plastic surgery, horrible disfigurement to accident or fire perhaps.
Like any surgery it is dangerous and it seems to me most frivolous.
I shouldn't judge though. I had a great rack so I don't really know how it feels to be a less desired state. Actually, the reverse is true, I didn't like all the attention to my body.
I agree with the first responder, women are judged on their looks, not fair to anyone involved.
Peace.
EDIT: There are 2 pics on my 360.
Reply:First of all, 1 in 5 cosmetic surgery patients are now male and no they are not all homosexual. My brother has had a rhinoplasty and I know plenty of other males who are quite straight who have had various procedures.
Secondly, what a woman or man chooses to do with their face or body is their business and no-one elses. I'm not sure what you mean about paying health premiums so women can have surgery, because cosmetic surgery is not usually covered by health insurance unless it is partly a functional problem such as breathing difficulties with the nose.
Thirdly, I met my husband before I had any work done, so there is no deception on my part. My husband supports me and just wants me to be happy. If I choose to spend my money on cosmetic surgery instead of buying a new car or expensive holiday, I don't see why anyone should have an issue with that.
As the first poster said, there is great deal of social pressure for women to look good. The same can be said for men, but not to the same degree. This pressure leads women (and men) to seek out ways to improve their appearance.
Reply:I would agree with the first answer. The media has totally brainwashed people. Overly shallow people are also the culprit. It is because of people who judge others on their looks and not their personality. Everyone thinks they need to be that perfect size 0 and have huge dd boobs because that is how the media portrays a perfect woman. Well beauty is only skin deep and the people who are overly obsessed with their looks are usually not very personable people anyway. Who would want to spend their life with a woman who had the perfect body, perfect face and no personality what so ever. Someday that woman will be just as equally looking as the woman who didnt go through all of that **** to look the way they did. I dont understand why woman can't be normal looking and work with what god gave them. (unless its a medical reason of course)
Reply:i seriously dunno if ya find out can you tell me???
i think ppl like that are really dumb
Saturday, April 24, 2010
Why can't Filipinos be Filipinos?
We always seem to prefer something that's not us. Whiter skin, different colored eyes, foreign movies. We always prefer stuff that are foreign and consider what we have here cheap and as said in street terms, "Baduy". A lot of Filipinos are more American than Americans. Just look at our showbiz industry, almost every actor and actress look foreign, those who look like pure Filipinos end up being comedians. How come we are so racist against our own kind? If you don't believe what I'm saying then ask yourself what is a "beautiful person" for you? Describe the ideal girl/ guy in your mind and tell me how Filipina/Filipino their features are.
Why can't Filipinos be Filipinos?
My boyfriend is 100% Filipino and he is the most beautiful man in the world to me. His features are almost Mexican/Spanish looking, a sharper nose but with full lips and large dark Asian eyes. Straight shiny black hair, with a goatee and moustache, and flaring, nicely shaped eyebrows. He is light in weight but very muscular and broad shouldered and narrow hipped, not overly tall but not short. His skintone is a medium/light golden brown. He is ideal to me in looks, because I love him. I wish he loved himself as much, because I feel that he is much like you describe, I wish he would be as proud of being Filipino as he should be. You should always be proud of who you are and who you come from, everyone's culture has special and good and unique things to celebrate. About the only thing he seems to enjoy about being Filipino is the foods he grew up with. Other than that, he seems to distance himself from other Filipinos. He even resents it that his sister wants him to spend time with her kids so that he can represent more of their Filipino heritage...she is married to a white man and lives in a white area. He seems insulted by being identified by his sister as a source of Filipino-ness...I wish he was prouder of his heritage and not so ambivalent. I think he and the Filipino culture he comes from is wonderful. Not perfect, but neither is any culture.
Reply:because the philippines is uniqe! they learned all these influences in the past by americans and spanish,so u cant stop what history did filipnios will always be like u said..in a way its good its special in our part of the world our culture is very comonly hispanic and americanized lifes Report It
Reply:They dont have pride in there own culture because they have no culture. If only Hitler was still alive.
Reply:Just because we are of different race doesnt mean that we should only commune amongst only our race. Fillipinos who live in America are constantly in contact with other races. And like the saying goes, "opposites attract", even though they arent really opposite, but i think you catch my drift. I am, btw fillipino, and i think that any girl who is humble, funny, and doesnt listent he mainstream music but music that she likes is the perfect girl in my mind. I know, it sounds like im giving a corny speech, but its true.
Could you help me with my question?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?...
Reply:Several of my nieces and nephews are Filipino and I grew up around them as my brother-in-law was Filipino . I loved the golden brown skin tone they have even my native American coloring is not the same. they are very beautiful people, ad I think movie , showbiz, etc are very narrow minded because all races have beauty in them and you are right about some being more American than some people, my brother-in-law fought in the 2nd world war for his citizenship.
Reply:im sure most would like to be something else.. but ah well...
Reply:the way i see it.. people's perception of beauty is quite universal...
besides, our appreciation for beauty...our taste...cannot be influenced by anything...cannot be controlled , cannot be forced fed....and that's the mistery of beauty.
you can't teach yourself to appreciate something you really don't. that goes for everybody not just Filipinos. that's just me.
Reply:I am very proud of being Filipino, I am just not proud of the negative stereotypes, especially ones I definitely do not fit in.
alstroemeria
Why can't Filipinos be Filipinos?
My boyfriend is 100% Filipino and he is the most beautiful man in the world to me. His features are almost Mexican/Spanish looking, a sharper nose but with full lips and large dark Asian eyes. Straight shiny black hair, with a goatee and moustache, and flaring, nicely shaped eyebrows. He is light in weight but very muscular and broad shouldered and narrow hipped, not overly tall but not short. His skintone is a medium/light golden brown. He is ideal to me in looks, because I love him. I wish he loved himself as much, because I feel that he is much like you describe, I wish he would be as proud of being Filipino as he should be. You should always be proud of who you are and who you come from, everyone's culture has special and good and unique things to celebrate. About the only thing he seems to enjoy about being Filipino is the foods he grew up with. Other than that, he seems to distance himself from other Filipinos. He even resents it that his sister wants him to spend time with her kids so that he can represent more of their Filipino heritage...she is married to a white man and lives in a white area. He seems insulted by being identified by his sister as a source of Filipino-ness...I wish he was prouder of his heritage and not so ambivalent. I think he and the Filipino culture he comes from is wonderful. Not perfect, but neither is any culture.
Reply:because the philippines is uniqe! they learned all these influences in the past by americans and spanish,so u cant stop what history did filipnios will always be like u said..in a way its good its special in our part of the world our culture is very comonly hispanic and americanized lifes Report It
Reply:They dont have pride in there own culture because they have no culture. If only Hitler was still alive.
Reply:Just because we are of different race doesnt mean that we should only commune amongst only our race. Fillipinos who live in America are constantly in contact with other races. And like the saying goes, "opposites attract", even though they arent really opposite, but i think you catch my drift. I am, btw fillipino, and i think that any girl who is humble, funny, and doesnt listent he mainstream music but music that she likes is the perfect girl in my mind. I know, it sounds like im giving a corny speech, but its true.
Could you help me with my question?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?...
Reply:Several of my nieces and nephews are Filipino and I grew up around them as my brother-in-law was Filipino . I loved the golden brown skin tone they have even my native American coloring is not the same. they are very beautiful people, ad I think movie , showbiz, etc are very narrow minded because all races have beauty in them and you are right about some being more American than some people, my brother-in-law fought in the 2nd world war for his citizenship.
Reply:im sure most would like to be something else.. but ah well...
Reply:the way i see it.. people's perception of beauty is quite universal...
besides, our appreciation for beauty...our taste...cannot be influenced by anything...cannot be controlled , cannot be forced fed....and that's the mistery of beauty.
you can't teach yourself to appreciate something you really don't. that goes for everybody not just Filipinos. that's just me.
Reply:I am very proud of being Filipino, I am just not proud of the negative stereotypes, especially ones I definitely do not fit in.
alstroemeria
Is an obssession with looking young a Caucasian issue?
In caucasians, beauty is defined in youth ( age 14 to 34/35). After which, there's a SHARP decline of features %26amp; skin texture, and a quick deterioration. Eg Meg Ryan, Julia Roberts.
Best example: Watch any episode of Friends Season 1, and even five years later, they look like 5 different ppl. In their tenth season, they look like they aged 15-20 years, ESP Joey.
Of all races, Caucasians seem to bloom the best, but they bloom early and, like a rose, fade as quickly too. Since mainstream Hollywood, big fashion houses and the music industry have picked up on this fact, they usually front young white people to sell movies, music, fashion, and this obsession with a young image is translated world-wide.
But within US and outside, women come from SO many races, how can a single race be the standard of beauty, youth, ageing, wrinkles for everyone??
Is an obssession with looking young a Caucasian issue?
Asians and African-Americans age more gracefully than Caucasians.
Reply:Have you seen mature asians with jet-black hair? Go figure.
Reply:to answer your question - a lot of different races has the same issue of trying to look young.
and you've answered your own question as to why - MEDIA. one would not believe how much influence media has on us nowadays.
finally, lest one forget, being young at heart does in fact translate to looking younger. remember that if you stress out about looking young, you'll age faster.
Reply:Um....maybe because we go down hill faster as you mentioned. Duh!
Reply:For our skin it's easier to see imperfections because we don't have black/brown to distract. You should see my mom without her make up.
Reply:Pursuit of eternal youth has always been with us and as I recall, a Spanish guy named Ponce De Leon looked for the fountain of youth for Queen Isabella in the new world. But an obsession with chasing ways to stay young looking has increased in many cultures (you note I do not say it is race based, because I do not believe it is).
The main reason is that Baby Boomers are getting older and they already realised that they look and act younger than their parents. So the cosmetics and fashion industry jumped on that.
So did plastic surgeons. However, no matter how much money you have, having the outside look young, because that is really what you're talking about, it's all in the genes.
Baby boomers are now bombarded with products and advertising that tells them they can stop or reverse the skin aging process and stay young looking like their daughters.
Some darker skin types cannot use plastic surgery because of the affect of surgical scarring on their skin.
It's also in the diet and how well you treat your body and allow your skin to renew itself.
There is no standard as you call it of beauty, youth, etc. I know women of all races who age beautifully. And it depends on where you are looking for the image you desire. Ever look at Ebony instead of Elle? The one race theory is so limited and excludes beauty everywhere.
Among the most beautiful women in the world, I think those from the Middle East look spectacular when young and then many age quickly because of the climate and other factors as well as genes. As older women they are still very beautiful inside and it shows in their eyes, so who cares about the wrinkles.
Face it. No woman in this day and age from Generation X on wants to look older. Our mothers and grandmothers knew what true beauty is and did not have this insatiable appetite to find products.
But advertiser sell products and they sell them to the willing. If you look really close you'll see they're selling them to everyone, and not just to a white image. And if the standard of age and beauty is so important, why not address instead the damage that the fashion industry has done to young women who develop anorexia to try to achieve a size one they would never have had genetically to begin with.
And if you want to find people who "bloom" earlier and don't "fade fast " you need only look to the Ethiopians who historically have been among the most beautiful people in the world. And what about the Swedes?
Alas! Your question is about race and not beauty.
Reply:Whenever I see an old lady trying to look young still I just laugh. Give it up.
Reply:There are cultural differences but it probably has little to do with race. Although, some very light skinned people are more susceptible to damage from the sun. You are just making generalizations and every individual is unique. The truth is most women of all races are most attractive when they are young. The skin gets more loose and wrinkled as they age, and they lose muscle mass, and gravity keeps working on them. This is natural and it is the same for all women.
Reply:everyone wants to look white
Best example: Watch any episode of Friends Season 1, and even five years later, they look like 5 different ppl. In their tenth season, they look like they aged 15-20 years, ESP Joey.
Of all races, Caucasians seem to bloom the best, but they bloom early and, like a rose, fade as quickly too. Since mainstream Hollywood, big fashion houses and the music industry have picked up on this fact, they usually front young white people to sell movies, music, fashion, and this obsession with a young image is translated world-wide.
But within US and outside, women come from SO many races, how can a single race be the standard of beauty, youth, ageing, wrinkles for everyone??
Is an obssession with looking young a Caucasian issue?
Asians and African-Americans age more gracefully than Caucasians.
Reply:Have you seen mature asians with jet-black hair? Go figure.
Reply:to answer your question - a lot of different races has the same issue of trying to look young.
and you've answered your own question as to why - MEDIA. one would not believe how much influence media has on us nowadays.
finally, lest one forget, being young at heart does in fact translate to looking younger. remember that if you stress out about looking young, you'll age faster.
Reply:Um....maybe because we go down hill faster as you mentioned. Duh!
Reply:For our skin it's easier to see imperfections because we don't have black/brown to distract. You should see my mom without her make up.
Reply:Pursuit of eternal youth has always been with us and as I recall, a Spanish guy named Ponce De Leon looked for the fountain of youth for Queen Isabella in the new world. But an obsession with chasing ways to stay young looking has increased in many cultures (you note I do not say it is race based, because I do not believe it is).
The main reason is that Baby Boomers are getting older and they already realised that they look and act younger than their parents. So the cosmetics and fashion industry jumped on that.
So did plastic surgeons. However, no matter how much money you have, having the outside look young, because that is really what you're talking about, it's all in the genes.
Baby boomers are now bombarded with products and advertising that tells them they can stop or reverse the skin aging process and stay young looking like their daughters.
Some darker skin types cannot use plastic surgery because of the affect of surgical scarring on their skin.
It's also in the diet and how well you treat your body and allow your skin to renew itself.
There is no standard as you call it of beauty, youth, etc. I know women of all races who age beautifully. And it depends on where you are looking for the image you desire. Ever look at Ebony instead of Elle? The one race theory is so limited and excludes beauty everywhere.
Among the most beautiful women in the world, I think those from the Middle East look spectacular when young and then many age quickly because of the climate and other factors as well as genes. As older women they are still very beautiful inside and it shows in their eyes, so who cares about the wrinkles.
Face it. No woman in this day and age from Generation X on wants to look older. Our mothers and grandmothers knew what true beauty is and did not have this insatiable appetite to find products.
But advertiser sell products and they sell them to the willing. If you look really close you'll see they're selling them to everyone, and not just to a white image. And if the standard of age and beauty is so important, why not address instead the damage that the fashion industry has done to young women who develop anorexia to try to achieve a size one they would never have had genetically to begin with.
And if you want to find people who "bloom" earlier and don't "fade fast " you need only look to the Ethiopians who historically have been among the most beautiful people in the world. And what about the Swedes?
Alas! Your question is about race and not beauty.
Reply:Whenever I see an old lady trying to look young still I just laugh. Give it up.
Reply:There are cultural differences but it probably has little to do with race. Although, some very light skinned people are more susceptible to damage from the sun. You are just making generalizations and every individual is unique. The truth is most women of all races are most attractive when they are young. The skin gets more loose and wrinkled as they age, and they lose muscle mass, and gravity keeps working on them. This is natural and it is the same for all women.
Reply:everyone wants to look white
Am I still a vegetarian...(I didn't know!!)?
Earlier today, I asked a question: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...
So, pretty much, I ate a pop-tart without realising it contained gelatin. And I know gelatin is made of animal bones, tendons, skin, ect. I have been a vegetarian for two months now, and I love it; I feel healthier and an all around better person.
Someone answered my question saying that Pop Tarts are not 'vegan', but are they vegetarian? I mean, is the tissue used to make Pop Tarts just a byproduct of the meat industry that would just do to waste, anyway? Like leather? And I figured since vegans don't wear leather but some vegetarians do...
What I really want to know is am I still a vegetarian. No stupid answers, please.
Am I still a vegetarian...(I didn't know!!)?
Lacto-ovo Vegetarians don't eat meat. But many of them still eat products containing geletain. Some do, some don't....they're all still considered vegetarian if they don't eat actual meat.
Course, what most vegetaians and vegans don't realize is that sugar is not a vegan product either. Sugar is processed through a bone char. The bone char decolorizes the sugar.
I could list a hiundred common items that are often not vegetaian/vegan, even though most people assume they are:
chewing gum
wine
pre-packaged guacamole
bread (sometimes contains cysteine)
Items containing Mono- and diglycerides (as they are often animal derived - this includes bakery items, ice cream, beverages, whipped toppings, etc)
Royal Jelly
the list goes on and on. If you worried about everything you put in your mouth, and analized everything, you probably wouldn't even drink water and you'd starve to death.
Stop worrying about what OTHER people think is vegetarian, and focus on the foods that you do or don't feel comfortable eating yourself.
Reply:Yes. It's not like being a vegetarian is a religion that you get kicked out of if you end up eating some gelatin. Continue with your lifestyle in peace.
I will say though, that if you're trying to eat healthy, it's a good idea to lose things like poptarts. ;)
Good luck!
[edit]
Yeah, what beebs said. (Hint: give her the best answer. She rawks. =D)
Reply:I always understood Vegetarians to be those who dont eat meat. I know people who eat eggs and cheese who consider themselves vegetarians.
Vegans eat no animal meat or by-products. I have a few friends who are strict vegans and it can be pretty hard.
There are even certain types of beer they can't drink.
Reply:Yes, just a misinformed vegetarian. Don't worry about it. Now you know, and can avoid gelatin (in marshmallows too) You are making a concious effort to avoid animal products, and you are to be commended for that. Just continue to learn. Read labels-if you dont know what an ingredient is, just google it to see what it is derived from. I am glad you are feeling better about your choices. Way to go!
Reply:You are still a vegetarian. You're going to find that you constantly run into things that contain animal products that you didn't know about. I recently had the same thing happen... I was eating my Tillamook yogurt and saw the word "kosher gelatin". I looked it up and found that kosher does not necessariy mean non-animal, so I emailed the company. They confirmed they use animal gelatin. I was SO bummed... and grossed out... but yeah. I just check my yogurt now!
Unfrosted poptarts are vegetarian. Frosted ones are not. Just don't eat the frosted ones anymore and you'll be fine.
That said... look out for other gelatin products. Many "frosted" cereals (including frosted mini wheats) have gelatin, as do many candies like starburst %26amp; skittles %26amp; gummy bears. Marshmallows (and anything containing marshmallows, like rocky road ice cream) also contain gelatin as do the majority of yogurts as well as some frozen yogurts.
Reply:haha..This reminds me of myself when I became i vegetarian...I as doing so well and ate a pop-tart.....and a friend of mine said "ya know theres gelatin in them things"....I felt as if I ruined my months of animal friendly hard work....I dont eat them anymore....not because I feel its truly an animal product because its really not...but because there not very good for you anyways...but hey if you like pop-tarts hun more power to ya!....
P.S. Your still a vegetarian :)
Reply:We all make these mistakes time to time. You learn to read the labels more carefully. I myself had some margarine and realized there was gelatin in it. Believe me you are still a vegetarian. You learn from your mistakes.
Reply:Oy, this is not an exclusive club.
If you believe that it is cruel to bring animals into the world only to slaughter them for profit, then you are a vegetarian.
If you try hard not to contribute to the demand that is supplied by cruelty, you're doing a great thing.
It sounds like you are new to this and don't really get it. It is a personal decision and no two people are exaclty the same.
Make your own rules that feel right to you and do your best.
Reply:Yes, you are still a vegetarian. If you want to be vegan (completely animal product fee) you would not eat things with animal byproducts. And, there are so many products out there with animal fats or whatnot hidden in the ingredients I'm sure a lot of vegans have had slip-ups unknowingly. It does not mean that you are no longer vegetarian/vegan.
Reply:No...frosted pop tarts have gelatin in them and are not vegetarian. Being vegetarian means not consuming meat or by products. If you ate it my accident, then yes, you are still a vegetarian but willingly eating them..that's a different story.
Reply:Yes. You are still vegetarian. Everybody slips up. Everybody.
I have issues with people who pull the drama queen routine when they find out they've just eaten something with animal in it. Man does that get old.
We live in a world that is basically unfriendly to vegetarians. How can it be easy to be veg when they're splicing animal genes into our fruit? Beebs brought that up earlier today.
I find it does help to grieve. Feel bad for the fall. Even an accidental one. Then move on. But don't forget. Be careful for next time.
Reply:If a man goes in the ladies room by mistake he's still man. It's called a mistake. If he continues going into the ladies room.....well ......
So are you going to continue eating pop tarts?
It really comes down to your reasons for being a vegetarian.
If it's for health reasons, then sure you are. You can eat gelatin and wear leather.
If you're a vegetarian for moral reasons against killing animals, then you're a hypocrite if you eat pop tarts and wear leather.
Reply:the non frosted poptarts are vegan!
http://www.almostvegan.com/archives/2005...
but frosted ones contain gelatin i think.
or you can try making your own
http://veganlunchbox.blogspot.com/2007/0...
Reply:Vegetarians don't eat meat.
Vegans don't eat animal byproducts.
Yes, you're still a vegetarian. Vegetarians can eat gelatin, I think, because animal bones aren't meat. You can eat everything that is not meat.
I've been a vegatarian for 4 months now and I'm still going strong. I prefer NOT to eat gelatin though, but that is only MY choice. You can do whatever you want. I think you can stick it through a long way, good luck!
(edit) I agree with most people here. It's common to slip up, don't let go of this because you THINK you made one mistake. If a Muslim eats pork by accident, they don't have to give up the religion, just never do it again. Some vegetarians prefer to eat chicken, which is white meat. I tend to not stick to categories, such as lacto-vegetarian or whatever else there is, I just do my own personal thing, and what I believe is right.
Reply:I believe you are still vegetarian,
a lot of different kind of vegetarian in the world. As long as you don't eat meat, you are STILL VEGETARIAN.
In china, we have vegetarian with eating eggs, but not meat, onion, garlic. They consider those food can't eat at all.
My husband is Indian vegetarian, we don't eat anything with animal products. Like the Pop-Tart you were talking about, and eggs, some cake contains eggs, we can't eat at all.
So, I believe that is all depend how you think and feel.
But I can tell you, you are still vegetarian.
Reply:If that kind of accident caused your 'veggie clock' to restart that would mean I've only been veggie about 7 years instead of half a century since I was hospitalized back then for taking a bite of a bean burrito that had some beef fat mixed in.
Not as dramatic as my last 'goof' since you didn't get sick, but as long as you consider 'plop-tarts' off limits it's not a problem.
BTW; if you really like those things (I don't) please note that the unfrosted ones don't normally have hoof in them and Amy's offers some that *really are* safe for veggies!
Reply:No, gelatin is not vegetarian. But everybody makes a mistake sometimes. They put animal products in so many weird things now days that its impossible to know them all. You are still a vegetarian, but now you know to always read the labels.
Reply:Gosh, you need to eat meat to stay healthy, meat contains protein and you dont have enough of it! You're not that healthy and you're probably soo skinny and God made animals for humans to kill and eat. Read the bible! God made animals for a purpose so that we can eat them to suriv! And gelitan is made up of animal bones!!!!???
Reply:no it's not, don't eat it, unless you have to
Reply:it doesnt really matter. when you are a vegetarian, you can control what you eat and there are no rules. but usually only vegans would not eat geletin or eggs and stuff.
Reply:Hey, chips, be kind to yourself. Even those who are vegetarian for religious reasons have something they do to atone for having eaten something not vegetarian accidentally!
There are some gelatins that are vegetarian/vegan, and these are made from agar-agar, extracted from seaweed. So there is a possibility that your Pop Tart may be vegetarian/vegan!
Take heart from what Howard Lyman, the vegetarian activist, said: "I will not INTENTIONALLY eat anything that has any meat or animal products in it."
But in your case, you just didn't know. Just be careful next time to read the label of processed food.
Good luck!
Reply:you are still a vegatarian, you just didn't know,as long as you don't eat gelatin again you're fine.
Reply:Yes: You're still a vegetarian they could have used veggie oil or corn, follow your heart be what you want to be and be happy with what you do, just be true to your self.
Rastafarian Jah
Reply:they are vegetarian!! Vegan is a special kind of vegetarian which does not eat anything with any type of animal product!! So even though it is not vegan you are still a veg!!
So, pretty much, I ate a pop-tart without realising it contained gelatin. And I know gelatin is made of animal bones, tendons, skin, ect. I have been a vegetarian for two months now, and I love it; I feel healthier and an all around better person.
Someone answered my question saying that Pop Tarts are not 'vegan', but are they vegetarian? I mean, is the tissue used to make Pop Tarts just a byproduct of the meat industry that would just do to waste, anyway? Like leather? And I figured since vegans don't wear leather but some vegetarians do...
What I really want to know is am I still a vegetarian. No stupid answers, please.
Am I still a vegetarian...(I didn't know!!)?
Lacto-ovo Vegetarians don't eat meat. But many of them still eat products containing geletain. Some do, some don't....they're all still considered vegetarian if they don't eat actual meat.
Course, what most vegetaians and vegans don't realize is that sugar is not a vegan product either. Sugar is processed through a bone char. The bone char decolorizes the sugar.
I could list a hiundred common items that are often not vegetaian/vegan, even though most people assume they are:
chewing gum
wine
pre-packaged guacamole
bread (sometimes contains cysteine)
Items containing Mono- and diglycerides (as they are often animal derived - this includes bakery items, ice cream, beverages, whipped toppings, etc)
Royal Jelly
the list goes on and on. If you worried about everything you put in your mouth, and analized everything, you probably wouldn't even drink water and you'd starve to death.
Stop worrying about what OTHER people think is vegetarian, and focus on the foods that you do or don't feel comfortable eating yourself.
Reply:Yes. It's not like being a vegetarian is a religion that you get kicked out of if you end up eating some gelatin. Continue with your lifestyle in peace.
I will say though, that if you're trying to eat healthy, it's a good idea to lose things like poptarts. ;)
Good luck!
[edit]
Yeah, what beebs said. (Hint: give her the best answer. She rawks. =D)
Reply:I always understood Vegetarians to be those who dont eat meat. I know people who eat eggs and cheese who consider themselves vegetarians.
Vegans eat no animal meat or by-products. I have a few friends who are strict vegans and it can be pretty hard.
There are even certain types of beer they can't drink.
Reply:Yes, just a misinformed vegetarian. Don't worry about it. Now you know, and can avoid gelatin (in marshmallows too) You are making a concious effort to avoid animal products, and you are to be commended for that. Just continue to learn. Read labels-if you dont know what an ingredient is, just google it to see what it is derived from. I am glad you are feeling better about your choices. Way to go!
Reply:You are still a vegetarian. You're going to find that you constantly run into things that contain animal products that you didn't know about. I recently had the same thing happen... I was eating my Tillamook yogurt and saw the word "kosher gelatin". I looked it up and found that kosher does not necessariy mean non-animal, so I emailed the company. They confirmed they use animal gelatin. I was SO bummed... and grossed out... but yeah. I just check my yogurt now!
Unfrosted poptarts are vegetarian. Frosted ones are not. Just don't eat the frosted ones anymore and you'll be fine.
That said... look out for other gelatin products. Many "frosted" cereals (including frosted mini wheats) have gelatin, as do many candies like starburst %26amp; skittles %26amp; gummy bears. Marshmallows (and anything containing marshmallows, like rocky road ice cream) also contain gelatin as do the majority of yogurts as well as some frozen yogurts.
Reply:haha..This reminds me of myself when I became i vegetarian...I as doing so well and ate a pop-tart.....and a friend of mine said "ya know theres gelatin in them things"....I felt as if I ruined my months of animal friendly hard work....I dont eat them anymore....not because I feel its truly an animal product because its really not...but because there not very good for you anyways...but hey if you like pop-tarts hun more power to ya!....
P.S. Your still a vegetarian :)
Reply:We all make these mistakes time to time. You learn to read the labels more carefully. I myself had some margarine and realized there was gelatin in it. Believe me you are still a vegetarian. You learn from your mistakes.
Reply:Oy, this is not an exclusive club.
If you believe that it is cruel to bring animals into the world only to slaughter them for profit, then you are a vegetarian.
If you try hard not to contribute to the demand that is supplied by cruelty, you're doing a great thing.
It sounds like you are new to this and don't really get it. It is a personal decision and no two people are exaclty the same.
Make your own rules that feel right to you and do your best.
Reply:Yes, you are still a vegetarian. If you want to be vegan (completely animal product fee) you would not eat things with animal byproducts. And, there are so many products out there with animal fats or whatnot hidden in the ingredients I'm sure a lot of vegans have had slip-ups unknowingly. It does not mean that you are no longer vegetarian/vegan.
Reply:No...frosted pop tarts have gelatin in them and are not vegetarian. Being vegetarian means not consuming meat or by products. If you ate it my accident, then yes, you are still a vegetarian but willingly eating them..that's a different story.
Reply:Yes. You are still vegetarian. Everybody slips up. Everybody.
I have issues with people who pull the drama queen routine when they find out they've just eaten something with animal in it. Man does that get old.
We live in a world that is basically unfriendly to vegetarians. How can it be easy to be veg when they're splicing animal genes into our fruit? Beebs brought that up earlier today.
I find it does help to grieve. Feel bad for the fall. Even an accidental one. Then move on. But don't forget. Be careful for next time.
Reply:If a man goes in the ladies room by mistake he's still man. It's called a mistake. If he continues going into the ladies room.....well ......
So are you going to continue eating pop tarts?
It really comes down to your reasons for being a vegetarian.
If it's for health reasons, then sure you are. You can eat gelatin and wear leather.
If you're a vegetarian for moral reasons against killing animals, then you're a hypocrite if you eat pop tarts and wear leather.
Reply:the non frosted poptarts are vegan!
http://www.almostvegan.com/archives/2005...
but frosted ones contain gelatin i think.
or you can try making your own
http://veganlunchbox.blogspot.com/2007/0...
Reply:Vegetarians don't eat meat.
Vegans don't eat animal byproducts.
Yes, you're still a vegetarian. Vegetarians can eat gelatin, I think, because animal bones aren't meat. You can eat everything that is not meat.
I've been a vegatarian for 4 months now and I'm still going strong. I prefer NOT to eat gelatin though, but that is only MY choice. You can do whatever you want. I think you can stick it through a long way, good luck!
(edit) I agree with most people here. It's common to slip up, don't let go of this because you THINK you made one mistake. If a Muslim eats pork by accident, they don't have to give up the religion, just never do it again. Some vegetarians prefer to eat chicken, which is white meat. I tend to not stick to categories, such as lacto-vegetarian or whatever else there is, I just do my own personal thing, and what I believe is right.
Reply:I believe you are still vegetarian,
a lot of different kind of vegetarian in the world. As long as you don't eat meat, you are STILL VEGETARIAN.
In china, we have vegetarian with eating eggs, but not meat, onion, garlic. They consider those food can't eat at all.
My husband is Indian vegetarian, we don't eat anything with animal products. Like the Pop-Tart you were talking about, and eggs, some cake contains eggs, we can't eat at all.
So, I believe that is all depend how you think and feel.
But I can tell you, you are still vegetarian.
Reply:If that kind of accident caused your 'veggie clock' to restart that would mean I've only been veggie about 7 years instead of half a century since I was hospitalized back then for taking a bite of a bean burrito that had some beef fat mixed in.
Not as dramatic as my last 'goof' since you didn't get sick, but as long as you consider 'plop-tarts' off limits it's not a problem.
BTW; if you really like those things (I don't) please note that the unfrosted ones don't normally have hoof in them and Amy's offers some that *really are* safe for veggies!
Reply:No, gelatin is not vegetarian. But everybody makes a mistake sometimes. They put animal products in so many weird things now days that its impossible to know them all. You are still a vegetarian, but now you know to always read the labels.
Reply:Gosh, you need to eat meat to stay healthy, meat contains protein and you dont have enough of it! You're not that healthy and you're probably soo skinny and God made animals for humans to kill and eat. Read the bible! God made animals for a purpose so that we can eat them to suriv! And gelitan is made up of animal bones!!!!???
Reply:no it's not, don't eat it, unless you have to
Reply:it doesnt really matter. when you are a vegetarian, you can control what you eat and there are no rules. but usually only vegans would not eat geletin or eggs and stuff.
Reply:Hey, chips, be kind to yourself. Even those who are vegetarian for religious reasons have something they do to atone for having eaten something not vegetarian accidentally!
There are some gelatins that are vegetarian/vegan, and these are made from agar-agar, extracted from seaweed. So there is a possibility that your Pop Tart may be vegetarian/vegan!
Take heart from what Howard Lyman, the vegetarian activist, said: "I will not INTENTIONALLY eat anything that has any meat or animal products in it."
But in your case, you just didn't know. Just be careful next time to read the label of processed food.
Good luck!
Reply:you are still a vegatarian, you just didn't know,as long as you don't eat gelatin again you're fine.
Reply:Yes: You're still a vegetarian they could have used veggie oil or corn, follow your heart be what you want to be and be happy with what you do, just be true to your self.
Rastafarian Jah
Reply:they are vegetarian!! Vegan is a special kind of vegetarian which does not eat anything with any type of animal product!! So even though it is not vegan you are still a veg!!
IT Job Market in the Inland Empire (Southern California) Saturated or is there a Missing Link?
I have conducted a futile intensive 3 month Job Hunt in the IT industry in Southern California to no avail. Granted there is always the whole "3 month average" etc but my horizon was too vast not to make a breakthrough.
About 5 years experience: Multiple Certifications: Multiple Projects: Manifold Awards.
There is the whole "TECHNICAL RECRUITER" anathema which gets beneath my skin. These guys generally form a shield between job seekers and employers effectively sabotaging the process. They Juggle around "acronyms" and "technologies" without having a clue as to what efforts are involved in getting them, or their relevance for that matter; and are fueled by insatiable hunger for "commissions".
Given my current inability to relocate, what would be the most effective method to make a breakthrough. I have pursued jobs ranging from the jobs requiring the bare minimal, to jobs that are actually consistent with my credentials to no avail.
Can someone shed some light on this issue?
IT Job Market in the Inland Empire (Southern California) Saturated or is there a Missing Link?
Try the Inland Empire Message Board:
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Reply:Our company offers a five/six figure income potential in twelve months if you are:
ambitious-achievement oriented, energetic,able to network and learn a system.
We are looking for you.
We are looking for people to expand an existing multi-million dollar USA based international company. Please e-mail me at ewelreliv@yahoo.com
About 5 years experience: Multiple Certifications: Multiple Projects: Manifold Awards.
There is the whole "TECHNICAL RECRUITER" anathema which gets beneath my skin. These guys generally form a shield between job seekers and employers effectively sabotaging the process. They Juggle around "acronyms" and "technologies" without having a clue as to what efforts are involved in getting them, or their relevance for that matter; and are fueled by insatiable hunger for "commissions".
Given my current inability to relocate, what would be the most effective method to make a breakthrough. I have pursued jobs ranging from the jobs requiring the bare minimal, to jobs that are actually consistent with my credentials to no avail.
Can someone shed some light on this issue?
IT Job Market in the Inland Empire (Southern California) Saturated or is there a Missing Link?
Try the Inland Empire Message Board:
http://mycitycorona.proboards106.com
Reply:Our company offers a five/six figure income potential in twelve months if you are:
ambitious-achievement oriented, energetic,able to network and learn a system.
We are looking for you.
We are looking for people to expand an existing multi-million dollar USA based international company. Please e-mail me at ewelreliv@yahoo.com
Question for menopausal women on Premarin?
do you know where it comes from and would you be willing to change to something less cruel??
it comes from pregnant mare urine.. the foals are often slaughtered because they are considered a by-product.. and the mares are kept stable 22 - 23 hours a day strapped to a urine collection bag which chafes their skin... bored and neglected - kept pregant for 11 months only to have their foal taken so they can be bred again
there are alternatives including estrogen from yams or synthasised.. however the PMU (pregnant mare urine) industry keeps pushing doctors to prescribe this drug that relies on a very cruel hideous industy..
thanks for having an open mind about this.. I hope some women will consider changing meds or spreading the word...
- yes this is a question because I also wonder how many doctors fully inform people where their drugs come from
Question for menopausal women on Premarin?
I was offered this drug but brought it home and trashed it. I have never taken hormones and so thankful. I had a breast lump a few years later that prempro could have caused it to be cancer. I dont reccomend its use at all.
Reply:its awful
Reply:i know about premarin and it is cruel how they do it you would think with all the technological advances we have we could have some other medicines and not have to use horses and their poor foals for medicine
elephant foot
it comes from pregnant mare urine.. the foals are often slaughtered because they are considered a by-product.. and the mares are kept stable 22 - 23 hours a day strapped to a urine collection bag which chafes their skin... bored and neglected - kept pregant for 11 months only to have their foal taken so they can be bred again
there are alternatives including estrogen from yams or synthasised.. however the PMU (pregnant mare urine) industry keeps pushing doctors to prescribe this drug that relies on a very cruel hideous industy..
thanks for having an open mind about this.. I hope some women will consider changing meds or spreading the word...
- yes this is a question because I also wonder how many doctors fully inform people where their drugs come from
Question for menopausal women on Premarin?
I was offered this drug but brought it home and trashed it. I have never taken hormones and so thankful. I had a breast lump a few years later that prempro could have caused it to be cancer. I dont reccomend its use at all.
Reply:its awful
Reply:i know about premarin and it is cruel how they do it you would think with all the technological advances we have we could have some other medicines and not have to use horses and their poor foals for medicine
elephant foot
Do you trust and/or believe everything u see and hear from the news/media?
Some people are too gullible and arrogant. Here are a few facts based on what i know at the moment There is a natural cures for EVERY single disease out there, but natural herbs or remedies cannot be patened therefore no money can be made off them so they are debunked and suppressed by the pharmaceutical industry controlled news/ media. If a disease was to be cured they could no loner make any more money by selling all these ineffective medicines that simply supress the symptoms with side effects that worsen the condition of ones health. The sun doesn't cause skin cancer- SPF sunblock lotions have cancer causing agents, Vitamin E from the sun actually helps prevent it. We are not running out of oil, thats just a gimmick to raise prices on any products that utilize the use of it, it was used in the early 1980's just to raise gas prices. FDA? wonder why foods and drugs are under one single branch when theyre obviously 2 very different things. What are you eating? Make sense? thatsnot all
Do you trust and/or believe everything u see and hear from the news/media?
It’s all a conspiracy.
Reply:I certainly would not
Reply:nope alot of it is gossip
Reply:Not much at all from the secular media
Reply:The media is biased. People should make up their own minds about something instead of believing everyone else.
Reply:The media are more into entertainment than informative value these days. Just as one might say, "Buyer beware," when dealing with businesses, so should the public understand that it's also "listener/viewer/reader beware" in reference to the media.
Reply:Hell no! And I've been well aware of the propaganda that stems from our so-called media for several years, and I'm glad to see more and more people realizing the facts. Thanks for asking a most informative question, keep em coming, there's a lot of people that need to see both sides of the spectrum.
Reply:I dont believe all what I hear and see from the media.
Reply:Never..................
Reply:I agree with you about natural cures. Since there is a hole in the ozone layer, the sun IS dangerous, and one should limit one's exposure to the sun without protection. One could not stay in the sun long enough to get a healthy dose of Vitamin E. We have Vitamin Supplements. I believe we should switch to an alternative fuel. SOON! The growth hormones they are putting into our food is very scary. I am opting for more fresh fruit and vegetables. They are putting growth hormones into Beef and Chicken and Pork, and then stuffing "get skinny" gimmicks down our throats!!! I do not trust the news media at all!!! Coffee is good one day and bad the next. I believe half of what I read %26amp; see on TV. Out of some people's mouths, I believe NOTHING!!! I want the drug industries out of the pockets of poiticians. It is ridiculous for drug companies to advertise on TV and radio and then we are supposed to go to our Doctor and TELL HIM WHAT WE NEED. My Mom was a Registered Nurse, and when I got sick, I went to the Doctor she worked for or he came to our house, he would diagnose my symptoms, and then prescribe treatment that HEALED ME. The media is acting in wreckless disregard of the health of human beings.
Reply:somewhat
Do you trust and/or believe everything u see and hear from the news/media?
It’s all a conspiracy.
Reply:I certainly would not
Reply:nope alot of it is gossip
Reply:Not much at all from the secular media
Reply:The media is biased. People should make up their own minds about something instead of believing everyone else.
Reply:The media are more into entertainment than informative value these days. Just as one might say, "Buyer beware," when dealing with businesses, so should the public understand that it's also "listener/viewer/reader beware" in reference to the media.
Reply:Hell no! And I've been well aware of the propaganda that stems from our so-called media for several years, and I'm glad to see more and more people realizing the facts. Thanks for asking a most informative question, keep em coming, there's a lot of people that need to see both sides of the spectrum.
Reply:I dont believe all what I hear and see from the media.
Reply:Never..................
Reply:I agree with you about natural cures. Since there is a hole in the ozone layer, the sun IS dangerous, and one should limit one's exposure to the sun without protection. One could not stay in the sun long enough to get a healthy dose of Vitamin E. We have Vitamin Supplements. I believe we should switch to an alternative fuel. SOON! The growth hormones they are putting into our food is very scary. I am opting for more fresh fruit and vegetables. They are putting growth hormones into Beef and Chicken and Pork, and then stuffing "get skinny" gimmicks down our throats!!! I do not trust the news media at all!!! Coffee is good one day and bad the next. I believe half of what I read %26amp; see on TV. Out of some people's mouths, I believe NOTHING!!! I want the drug industries out of the pockets of poiticians. It is ridiculous for drug companies to advertise on TV and radio and then we are supposed to go to our Doctor and TELL HIM WHAT WE NEED. My Mom was a Registered Nurse, and when I got sick, I went to the Doctor she worked for or he came to our house, he would diagnose my symptoms, and then prescribe treatment that HEALED ME. The media is acting in wreckless disregard of the health of human beings.
Reply:somewhat
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